If you run them horizontally, then it gives you more stance width options though less adjustability in terms of getting your boots centered in terms of toe and heel overhang. Re:Flex discs can only be run vertically, so you can only adjust by 2cm increments per binding on a 2 x 4 board — and only in 4cm increments on a 4 x 4.
So, if you have a 2 x 4 or 4 x 4 board, and you want to be able to have micro-stance width adjustments, you might want to consider another brand. Snowboards have 3 main mounting patterns these days. If you have an older Burton board, you might have a 3D pattern, but otherwise your board will likely fall under one of these 3. This is the most common mounting pattern going around and is characterized by screw holes that are 4cm apart vertically and 2cm apart horizontally.
The 4 x 4 mounting pattern has holes that are 4cm apart vertically and 4cm apart horizontally. This means less micro-adjustable in terms of stance width options.
The Channel system uses inserts that slide along a track, which the bindings attach too. This system allows almost limitless stance width options. Choosing Re:Flex or EST bindings essentially comes down to the board you have or are thinking of getting. Get the 7 step email series plus other relevant snowboarding emails, review releases, promotions, and information from time to time.
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That, and becoming a better rider and just enjoying and getting the most out of life. I was wondering how the union mini disc compare to the reflex in terms of response, board feel etc.
Love all the content, thank you for all the in-depth replies and reviews. The discussion with Florian was also really helpful, thank you both! In terms of response, I think it really depends on the model. Maybe overall the mini-disc feels a little more responsive. And I only say that because I find flex-for-flex that Union bindings mini-disc or not however tend to be a little more responsive, by my feel. But there are other factors involved too.
And it really largely depends on the model. Thanks Nate!! Hi Nate I just wanted to ask you why you think that est-bindings arent as shockabsorbant than the reflex versions?
Shouldnt there be more room for EVA-material since there is only a small strip of hard plastic under your footpads and the rest is just EVA-foam. So why do you think the reflex bindings are more shockabsorbant? BTW thx for your detailed reviews. There is thicker padding in the heel in Re:Flex models — which is, IMO, the most important area for shock absorption.
The padding in the heel on EST bindings is quite thin. That thinness — and the fact that most of the footbeds is just foam, is a large reason, IMO, why EST models tend to have a little better board feel than Re:Flex. Thx for your answer. On the other hand I see a problem with the reflex bindings and thats the mechanism to put your gaspedal forward.
If you have to put it on the most forward klick like me there is alot of room exposed directly under the heel. Also this causes the EVA foam to wear away more quickly. The solution of the Est bindings seems way more logical. This lead me to believe that the Est would give me more shock absorbtion than my current reflex bindings.
I guess I will see soon enough since i just bought some Diodes and Cartels in the Est version. I bougt both used and plan to build some frankenbindings for my burton powder deck.
Could you test those out? Did you like them? Snowboard gear is addictive for sure! On my pow deck i didnt really notice a difference to be honest since I only rode that one in pow and very soft snow. Unfortunately, I couldnt do a direct A-B-comparison since I didnt bring my reflex bindings with me but I am really familiar with the reflex bindings because I rode them almost exklusively for the last years.
So which one is more shockabsorbant? I really dont think there is much of a difference between the two. How does this transalte to feel?
I really couldnt tell a difference maybe in a direct test where I would change bindings at the bottom of a slope. Its more the chatter absorbation which feels different though than the slow hard impact like hitting a knuckle, there I would say they are pretty even maybe the reflex has some tiny advantages?
Idk…Burton bindings in general are really good regarding shock absorbation. The fact that with the EST-Bindings you really stand on pretty much just EVA-foam does reduce chatter at speeds a bit better if you ask me. This also translates to a different feel of the bindings overall. That being said I cant really put my finger on what exactly is different. Maybe the hinge also contribiutes to this difference in feel..
That felt entirely different. First and foremost there was a pretty huge gain in response when I rode with the springebeds. All my movements felt way quicker and more forceful, there was less energy lost in the EVA. So thats really a cool feeling. I have no idear why burton does that but its a quite signifikant difference.
I would say with size 11 boots you would have no problems at all to fit into a size M EST, whereas with the reflex-version I would say depending on the boot brand it might fit but better check it out first. On another sidenote: This also results in the EST-bindings being a bit heavier than their reflex counterparts. Thats mostly because theres just more framematerial.
They felt heavier on my feet, especially with the springbeds mounted that day the bindings board felt like an anker on my feet. With the EVA-footbeds it was better but still in another league than my union contact pros. ESTs weigh aroung g with the Springbeds mounted around 1kg union contact pros around with discs and screws And yes you can feel this g difference! Sorry about the confusion with the binding-weights. Please Note: during busy season Nov through Jan economy orders can take longer to process.
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